http://www.mpdailyfix.com/reputation-gaming-with-the-sybil-attack/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=reputation-gaming-with-the-sybil-attack Opinions. Commentary. News. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 02:23:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 http://www.mpdailyfix.com/reputation-gaming-with-the-sybil-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-32703 Paul Dunay Tue, 15 Jan 2008 02:15:31 +0000 http://www.mpdailyfix.com/reputation-gaming-with-the-sybil-attack/#comment-32703 Gwyneth I dont have any physical examples just the urban legends I described. sorry Gwyneth
I dont have any physical examples just the urban legends I described.
sorry

]]> http://www.mpdailyfix.com/reputation-gaming-with-the-sybil-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-32702 Eric Levy Thu, 10 Jan 2008 18:38:29 +0000 http://www.mpdailyfix.com/reputation-gaming-with-the-sybil-attack/#comment-32702 And, indeed, the reverse is true as well. As a frequent and long-time contributor to Gather.com, I'm acutely aware that "gaming the system" but registering dummy accounts, IM'ing or emailing friends to cooperate with you and other social engineering tactics can elevate mediocre work to undeserved levels while burying extraordinary work by honest purveyors. Clearly, IM'ing or emailing your friends is out of the reputation management system's control, but certainly smart IP filtering or awareness makes the multiple ID tactic less viable. And, indeed, the reverse is true as well. As a frequent and long-time contributor to Gather.com, I’m acutely aware that “gaming the system” but registering dummy accounts, IM’ing or emailing friends to cooperate with you and other social engineering tactics can elevate mediocre work to undeserved levels while burying extraordinary work by honest purveyors.
Clearly, IM’ing or emailing your friends is out of the reputation management system’s control, but certainly smart IP filtering or awareness makes the multiple ID tactic less viable.

]]> http://www.mpdailyfix.com/reputation-gaming-with-the-sybil-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-32701 Ami Thu, 10 Jan 2008 03:19:45 +0000 http://www.mpdailyfix.com/reputation-gaming-with-the-sybil-attack/#comment-32701 I came across some where, a person having 21 different Stumbleupon accounts. And he said it openly on his blog. And, mind you 21 thumbs up on Stumble can bring you about 1000 hits a day (or even more), for continuously for 3 to 4 days. In my personal opinion, this not going to be long term. More and more, people are giving up their "anonymity" on the web and coming out with their true personality. Just like in offline society, even here on the web, the rest of the community will make sure these people get what they deserve to earn. Extinction. I came across some where, a person having 21 different Stumbleupon accounts. And he said it openly on his blog. And, mind you 21 thumbs up on Stumble can bring you about 1000 hits a day (or even more), for continuously for 3 to 4 days.
In my personal opinion, this not going to be long term. More and more, people are giving up their “anonymity” on the web and coming out with their true personality. Just like in offline society, even here on the web, the rest of the community will make sure these people get what they deserve to earn. Extinction.

]]> http://www.mpdailyfix.com/reputation-gaming-with-the-sybil-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-32700 Richard Millington Wed, 09 Jan 2008 18:33:54 +0000 http://www.mpdailyfix.com/reputation-gaming-with-the-sybil-attack/#comment-32700 Whilst this is a big issue, it's not comparable with the practices of b5media - a huge army of bloggers, who all digg eachother's articles regardless of quality just to see it rank highly. Whilst this is a big issue, it’s not comparable with the practices of b5media – a huge army of bloggers, who all digg eachother’s articles regardless of quality just to see it rank highly.

]]> http://www.mpdailyfix.com/reputation-gaming-with-the-sybil-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-32699 Mack Collier Wed, 09 Jan 2008 17:55:05 +0000 http://www.mpdailyfix.com/reputation-gaming-with-the-sybil-attack/#comment-32699 Paul I'm seeing more and more examples of people detailing how Digg can be gamed. I remember Tara Hunt posted at her blog 2 years ago how TechMeme could be gamed in a similar fashion. I think the real losers in these situations are the sites themselves. When the ability to manipulate the results is exposed, the trust factor goes down. Paul I’m seeing more and more examples of people detailing how Digg can be gamed. I remember Tara Hunt posted at her blog 2 years ago how TechMeme could be gamed in a similar fashion.
I think the real losers in these situations are the sites themselves. When the ability to manipulate the results is exposed, the trust factor goes down.

]]> http://www.mpdailyfix.com/reputation-gaming-with-the-sybil-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-32698 Michael E. Rubin, GasPedal Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:33:40 +0000 http://www.mpdailyfix.com/reputation-gaming-with-the-sybil-attack/#comment-32698 Paul, until you wrote the last paragraph, I thought you were going to advocate this type of practice. I'm glad to see that's not the case. Let's not kid ourselves. We know this crap goes on all the time, but it doesn't make it any more right or less reprehensible. It usually has a much more malignant name -- stealth marketing. As always, I point to the WOMMA Ethics Code and the Honesty ROI as a great starting point for any marketers or agencies unclear on why this is wrong. Source: <a href="http://womma.org/ethics" rel="nofollow">http://womma.org/ethics</a> Paul, until you wrote the last paragraph, I thought you were going to advocate this type of practice. I’m glad to see that’s not the case.
Let’s not kid ourselves. We know this crap goes on all the time, but it doesn’t make it any more right or less reprehensible. It usually has a much more malignant name — stealth marketing.
As always, I point to the WOMMA Ethics Code and the Honesty ROI as a great starting point for any marketers or agencies unclear on why this is wrong.
Source: http://womma.org/ethics

]]> http://www.mpdailyfix.com/reputation-gaming-with-the-sybil-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-32697 David Rauch Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:23:46 +0000 http://www.mpdailyfix.com/reputation-gaming-with-the-sybil-attack/#comment-32697 Nightclubs have been known to keep people waiting in line so that the place seems popular. Likewise, companies throttle back the supply of popular products (think Wii) to make them seem even more in demand. Both examples artificially boost the popularity of a product. However, they are standard business practices. The tactic you wrote about however, is looked down on. Clearly there's a fine line between scamming the system and trying to alter your image. I'm just not sure what it is... Nightclubs have been known to keep people waiting in line so that the place seems popular.
Likewise, companies throttle back the supply of popular products (think Wii) to make them seem even more in demand.
Both examples artificially boost the popularity of a product. However, they are standard business practices. The tactic you wrote about however, is looked down on.
Clearly there’s a fine line between scamming the system and trying to alter your image. I’m just not sure what it is…

]]> http://www.mpdailyfix.com/reputation-gaming-with-the-sybil-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-32696 Gwyneth Dwyer Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:19:30 +0000 http://www.mpdailyfix.com/reputation-gaming-with-the-sybil-attack/#comment-32696 Paul, Are you comfortable sharing actual examples of a Sybil attack? Paul, Are you comfortable sharing actual examples of a Sybil attack?

]]> http://www.mpdailyfix.com/reputation-gaming-with-the-sybil-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-32695 Lewis Green Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:49:23 +0000 http://www.mpdailyfix.com/reputation-gaming-with-the-sybil-attack/#comment-32695 Paul, Manipulating any system sucks and is just wrong! We should earn rewards, not cheat to attain them. Paul,
Manipulating any system sucks and is just wrong! We should earn rewards, not cheat to attain them.

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