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	<title>Comments on: PR&#8217;s Already Tarnished Image Takes a Hit from Hagar the Horrible</title>
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		<title>By: Darcy Moen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darcy Moen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 02:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This issue of PR having PR issues has been well documented over here for some time now: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.strumpette.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.strumpette.com/&lt;/a&gt;
Amanda tells it like it is, Edelman like it or not.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This issue of PR having PR issues has been well documented over here for some time now: <a href="http://www.strumpette.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.strumpette.com/</a><br />
Amanda tells it like it is, Edelman like it or not.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Denny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Denny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 00:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My personal favorite of the moment is, of course, the rampant fauxtography and Jamil Hussein-ification of current events in Iraq.
Apparently, &quot;fake but accurate(-ish)&quot; is good enough for many, especially when it provides a happy opportunity to &quot;Fonda&quot; the public (not to mention the country).
The media&#039;s credibility gap, in all its forms, has given rise to... well... people like us, who do our research, uncover squishy untruths, and explose &#039;evil-doers&#039; for what they are.
(Can I claim two new words for this post? I say I can!)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My personal favorite of the moment is, of course, the rampant fauxtography and Jamil Hussein-ification of current events in Iraq.<br />
Apparently, &#8220;fake but accurate(-ish)&#8221; is good enough for many, especially when it provides a happy opportunity to &#8220;Fonda&#8221; the public (not to mention the country).<br />
The media&#8217;s credibility gap, in all its forms, has given rise to&#8230; well&#8230; people like us, who do our research, uncover squishy untruths, and explose &#8216;evil-doers&#8217; for what they are.<br />
(Can I claim two new words for this post? I say I can!)</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Mohan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Mohan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 20:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aren&#039;t we all out-shouted by the bad apples in our respective marketing fields?
Good PR doesn&#039;t include shouting. Like all good marketing, PR is about increasing the credibility and trust the consumer has in a client&#039;s product or service.
In a crisis they are often found to be helping company leaders bring back control to an unruly situation.
As the availability and use technology changes the way people communicate the shouting by those applying traditional media communications tactics will appear more desperate. Especially to those of us whose work has evolved into the web 3.0 world.
Forgive them, their cries will be silent soon. As this crisis too will likely be brought under control by a better PR professional.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aren&#8217;t we all out-shouted by the bad apples in our respective marketing fields?<br />
Good PR doesn&#8217;t include shouting. Like all good marketing, PR is about increasing the credibility and trust the consumer has in a client&#8217;s product or service.<br />
In a crisis they are often found to be helping company leaders bring back control to an unruly situation.<br />
As the availability and use technology changes the way people communicate the shouting by those applying traditional media communications tactics will appear more desperate. Especially to those of us whose work has evolved into the web 3.0 world.<br />
Forgive them, their cries will be silent soon. As this crisis too will likely be brought under control by a better PR professional.</p>
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		<title>By: B.L. Ochman</title>
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		<dc:creator>B.L. Ochman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 16:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Patricia!
Robert: I think that you just keep doing good work, and you have the balls to refuse to do unethical work, and over time, your reputation is colored by your results.
For me personally, I only work on accounts I care about, for people whom I respect.
Over the years that has meant walking away from a *lot* of money, but money has come back to me, in spades, from clients I am proud to work with.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Patricia!<br />
Robert: I think that you just keep doing good work, and you have the balls to refuse to do unethical work, and over time, your reputation is colored by your results.<br />
For me personally, I only work on accounts I care about, for people whom I respect.<br />
Over the years that has meant walking away from a *lot* of money, but money has come back to me, in spades, from clients I am proud to work with.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 15:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This blog makes so much sense to me. As I get further in my career, I grow a little more cynical each year. It&#039;s so hard to keep a high standard of ethics when all around you, ethics are thrown out the window for a buck. It&#039;s just sad.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This blog makes so much sense to me. As I get further in my career, I grow a little more cynical each year. It&#8217;s so hard to keep a high standard of ethics when all around you, ethics are thrown out the window for a buck. It&#8217;s just sad.</p>
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		<title>By: Patricia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 20:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Left this with the orig. post already, but must submit here in the name of cinematic integrity:
It should be clarified that Sydney Falco planted the drugs primarily because the jazz musician in question was about to marry Burt Lancaster&#039;s sister.
Smearing the guy in the gossip column was part of the effort to break up the relationship. Yes, it was sleazy PR &amp; Sydney&#039;s ultimate objective was to stay in the good graces of a powerful journalist. But technically, he wasn&#039;t interested in placing a story.
Sorry to geek out on the details, but that&#039;s one of my all-time favorite movies :)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Left this with the orig. post already, but must submit here in the name of cinematic integrity:<br />
It should be clarified that Sydney Falco planted the drugs primarily because the jazz musician in question was about to marry Burt Lancaster&#8217;s sister.<br />
Smearing the guy in the gossip column was part of the effort to break up the relationship. Yes, it was sleazy PR &#038; Sydney&#8217;s ultimate objective was to stay in the good graces of a powerful journalist. But technically, he wasn&#8217;t interested in placing a story.<br />
Sorry to geek out on the details, but that&#8217;s one of my all-time favorite movies <img src='http://www.mpdailyfix.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Robert Hruzek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Hruzek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 17:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Howdy, B.L.! There are several professions with the same image problem (lawyers, actors, etc.) and what you say certainly makes sense. Luckily (he said smugly) I&#039;m not one of those!
But what if you ARE being misrepresented by others in your profession? How do you overcome preconceived notions of what you&#039;re really like?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howdy, B.L.! There are several professions with the same image problem (lawyers, actors, etc.) and what you say certainly makes sense. Luckily (he said smugly) I&#8217;m not one of those!<br />
But what if you ARE being misrepresented by others in your profession? How do you overcome preconceived notions of what you&#8217;re really like?</p>
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		<title>By: Ann Handley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann Handley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 16:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lewis: ... &quot;it&#039;s a version of the truth.&quot;
Oh my word... not sure whether that makes me laugh or cry.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lewis: &#8230; &#8220;it&#8217;s a version of the truth.&#8221;<br />
Oh my word&#8230; not sure whether that makes me laugh or cry.</p>
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		<title>By: B.L. Ochman</title>
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		<dc:creator>B.L. Ochman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 15:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul: I wish I could agree with you. Before I turned to the web in 1995 I had a 6-person PR firm, and I worked in PR for a while before that.
I know from both inside and outside the field that the good PR people are very much the exception and not the rule.
The vast majority of PR people and agencies have no grasp of social media; have not taken control of clients&#039; websites; and have not learned how to get their story across now that message control is completely an illusion.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul: I wish I could agree with you. Before I turned to the web in 1995 I had a 6-person PR firm, and I worked in PR for a while before that.<br />
I know from both inside and outside the field that the good PR people are very much the exception and not the rule.<br />
The vast majority of PR people and agencies have no grasp of social media; have not taken control of clients&#8217; websites; and have not learned how to get their story across now that message control is completely an illusion.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Barsch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Barsch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 14:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BL, I think you have your ratios reversed.
The majority of PR people have their act together, are competent at their craft, and are very, VERY effective at driving stories, market awareness and results for clients.  It&#039;s a few slimeballs that give them a bad name, but can&#039;t that also be said of the marketing profession?
Btw, I am not a PR professional, but have worked with some of the best over my 15 year career...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BL, I think you have your ratios reversed.<br />
The majority of PR people have their act together, are competent at their craft, and are very, VERY effective at driving stories, market awareness and results for clients.  It&#8217;s a few slimeballs that give them a bad name, but can&#8217;t that also be said of the marketing profession?<br />
Btw, I am not a PR professional, but have worked with some of the best over my 15 year career&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Erlend Førsund</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erlend Førsund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 13:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What irony: PR has an image problem. Interesting post!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What irony: PR has an image problem. Interesting post!</p>
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		<title>By: Lewis Green</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lewis Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 13:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you that &quot;there is a great shortage of balls in the PR industry.&quot;
It was as a former corporate communications manager with several large corporations that I first heard the term &quot;it&#039;s a version of the truth.&quot; These words came out of a PR manager&#039;s mouth in response to a press release that I felt was not 100 percent truthful.
I guess I&#039;m old-fashioned but to me words tell the truth or they don&#039;t.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you that &#8220;there is a great shortage of balls in the PR industry.&#8221;<br />
It was as a former corporate communications manager with several large corporations that I first heard the term &#8220;it&#8217;s a version of the truth.&#8221; These words came out of a PR manager&#8217;s mouth in response to a press release that I felt was not 100 percent truthful.<br />
I guess I&#8217;m old-fashioned but to me words tell the truth or they don&#8217;t.</p>
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