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	<title>Comments on: No Patience for the ROI of Social Media Discussion</title>
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		<title>By: Jasper Blake</title>
		<link>http://www.mpdailyfix.com/no-patience-for-the-roi-of-social-media-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-41684</link>
		<dc:creator>Jasper Blake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The number of Social networks and ways of engaging are increasing and fragmenting as technology develops. The key is to find ways of engaging efficiently with complex and fragmented communities - and be able to measure one&#039;s effectiveness in doing that.  That is why we created Social Smart.
Social Smart is an affordable, in-house solution for effectively managing, and measuring muti-channel social media campaigns and inbound web traffic. It combines search optimization, social media, and email targeting through one easy-to-use dashboard to increase social media ROI in all areas of branding, research and online conversions. With E-Commerce integration and interest-targeted email list generation capabilities, its a marketing department in a box.
I agree the whole &quot;how do you measure ROI with social media&quot; question should no longer be an issue - well done for saying so!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The number of Social networks and ways of engaging are increasing and fragmenting as technology develops. The key is to find ways of engaging efficiently with complex and fragmented communities &#8211; and be able to measure one&#8217;s effectiveness in doing that.  That is why we created Social Smart.<br />
Social Smart is an affordable, in-house solution for effectively managing, and measuring muti-channel social media campaigns and inbound web traffic. It combines search optimization, social media, and email targeting through one easy-to-use dashboard to increase social media ROI in all areas of branding, research and online conversions. With E-Commerce integration and interest-targeted email list generation capabilities, its a marketing department in a box.<br />
I agree the whole &#8220;how do you measure ROI with social media&#8221; question should no longer be an issue &#8211; well done for saying so!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Dunay</title>
		<link>http://www.mpdailyfix.com/no-patience-for-the-roi-of-social-media-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-41683</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Dunay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 01:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Jason - agreed
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Jason &#8211; agreed</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Dunay</title>
		<link>http://www.mpdailyfix.com/no-patience-for-the-roi-of-social-media-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-41682</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Dunay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 01:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Lewis - you raise a good point about the ability to measure and calculate ROI and I agree and hopefully have inspired those to take action with tools that already exist
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Lewis &#8211; you raise a good point about the ability to measure and calculate ROI and I agree and hopefully have inspired those to take action with tools that already exist</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Peck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Peck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes. We are really making things waaay too complicated sometimes when we try to measure things like attention, influence, etc. Not that there isn&#039;t value in those things, but as Dell proved, it doesn&#039;t have to be rocket science.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes. We are really making things waaay too complicated sometimes when we try to measure things like attention, influence, etc. Not that there isn&#8217;t value in those things, but as Dell proved, it doesn&#8217;t have to be rocket science.</p>
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		<title>By: Lewis Green</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lewis Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul,
As you know, I have been arguing that measuring ROI no matter the media is always possible. I have come to believe that those who argue otherwise either have little or no experience measuring results; little or no experience in the corporate world where measuring results has been part of the dialogue and challenge for decades; or they are defensive because they need to protect their position lest they be found out.
My judgment reads as a harsh indictment, but for 35 years I have been hearing managers say what they do can&#039;t be measured. Often they did what I was doing, and my teams were measuring results as were other teams within the Marketing and Communications areas. My conclusion was that they didn&#039;t understand how to measure ROI and were threatened by learning how because then they would be held accountable.
I urge all to learn how to measure ROI, not be threatened by it, and become a hero because nothing says excellence like the delivery of ROI.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul,<br />
As you know, I have been arguing that measuring ROI no matter the media is always possible. I have come to believe that those who argue otherwise either have little or no experience measuring results; little or no experience in the corporate world where measuring results has been part of the dialogue and challenge for decades; or they are defensive because they need to protect their position lest they be found out.<br />
My judgment reads as a harsh indictment, but for 35 years I have been hearing managers say what they do can&#8217;t be measured. Often they did what I was doing, and my teams were measuring results as were other teams within the Marketing and Communications areas. My conclusion was that they didn&#8217;t understand how to measure ROI and were threatened by learning how because then they would be held accountable.<br />
I urge all to learn how to measure ROI, not be threatened by it, and become a hero because nothing says excellence like the delivery of ROI.</p>
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