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	<title>Comments on: Marketers: More Hockey, Less Figure Skating</title>
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		<title>By: Mike O'Toole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike O'Toole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 13:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dean,
No problem, link away. I&#039;ve always been curious about the crossover between digital marketing and hockey :)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dean,<br />
No problem, link away. I&#8217;ve always been curious about the crossover between digital marketing and hockey <img src='http://www.mpdailyfix.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dean Sprung</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dean Sprung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, great article.
I&#039;d like to use this as a backdrop to promoting my mobile media application HockeyGPS.  I&#039;m looking for national advertisers and would like to use a link to your article in my communications...with your permission.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, great article.<br />
I&#8217;d like to use this as a backdrop to promoting my mobile media application HockeyGPS.  I&#8217;m looking for national advertisers and would like to use a link to your article in my communications&#8230;with your permission.</p>
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		<title>By: Email Blaster Program</title>
		<link>http://www.mpdailyfix.com/marketers-more-hockey-less-figure-skating/comment-page-1/#comment-41819</link>
		<dc:creator>Email Blaster Program</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will recommend using Email Charger for all bulk email marketing needs. Its the best bulk email marketing software I have used so far.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will recommend using Email Charger for all bulk email marketing needs. Its the best bulk email marketing software I have used so far.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Sevitt</title>
		<link>http://www.mpdailyfix.com/marketers-more-hockey-less-figure-skating/comment-page-1/#comment-41818</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Sevitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m having translation issues.
Could you do this all over again, but this time using cricket?
Cheers.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m having translation issues.<br />
Could you do this all over again, but this time using cricket?<br />
Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: Night Life</title>
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		<dc:creator>Night Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello mate, I want to thank you for this nice blog. Would you mind telling me some secrets for a succesful blog ? Which could attract some visitors than it normally does.  Please come visit my site    FreeAdultEntertainment  when you got time.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello mate, I want to thank you for this nice blog. Would you mind telling me some secrets for a succesful blog ? Which could attract some visitors than it normally does.  Please come visit my site    FreeAdultEntertainment  when you got time.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike O'Toole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike O'Toole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark,
I think you&#039;re exactly right...playing hockey requires a cultural shift for agencies. Traditionally, we were paid for the big campaign, now we need to deliver that campaign (the big ideas are still critical) and the pre-post engagement. And campaign accountability has been turned on its head. There are many real-time tools to evaluate activities, very few to judge outcomes.
Richard,
I love your addition of who does the judging to the analogy. We are playing a very different game when the customer (vs the experts) grades our performance.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,<br />
I think you&#8217;re exactly right&#8230;playing hockey requires a cultural shift for agencies. Traditionally, we were paid for the big campaign, now we need to deliver that campaign (the big ideas are still critical) and the pre-post engagement. And campaign accountability has been turned on its head. There are many real-time tools to evaluate activities, very few to judge outcomes.<br />
Richard,<br />
I love your addition of who does the judging to the analogy. We are playing a very different game when the customer (vs the experts) grades our performance.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Lipscombe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Lipscombe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 03:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Old marketing was aimed at the judges - like a figure skating performance - who were the people who paid for it not the people who consumed it.
Digital marketing is aimed at the consumers - like a game of ice hockey its for the fans - who attend, follow online, on TV, on iphone, etc.
The ice hockey approach has been around for a long time - eg Tupperware Parties in the 1950s - but it was not that popular with &#039;push marketers&#039; because they did not have a role.
Today the best digital or online marketing is done by those businesses that get their consumers involved in the design, production, and distribution of their products and service.  A modern example is Threadless - the T-shirt maker in Chicago. But don&#039;t get too carried away with all this new age stuff - remember that Tupperware in the 1950s also did this very well too!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Old marketing was aimed at the judges &#8211; like a figure skating performance &#8211; who were the people who paid for it not the people who consumed it.<br />
Digital marketing is aimed at the consumers &#8211; like a game of ice hockey its for the fans &#8211; who attend, follow online, on TV, on iphone, etc.<br />
The ice hockey approach has been around for a long time &#8211; eg Tupperware Parties in the 1950s &#8211; but it was not that popular with &#8216;push marketers&#8217; because they did not have a role.<br />
Today the best digital or online marketing is done by those businesses that get their consumers involved in the design, production, and distribution of their products and service.  A modern example is Threadless &#8211; the T-shirt maker in Chicago. But don&#8217;t get too carried away with all this new age stuff &#8211; remember that Tupperware in the 1950s also did this very well too!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike O'Toole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike O'Toole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank,
Love the reference to agile project management as a way to operationalize a hockey mindset.
Matt, completely agree that the most successful marketers combine the best qualities of both. As you say, finesse and stamina along with artistry and poise.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank,<br />
Love the reference to agile project management as a way to operationalize a hockey mindset.<br />
Matt, completely agree that the most successful marketers combine the best qualities of both. As you say, finesse and stamina along with artistry and poise.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mike-I enjoyed this article.
Looking at if from a paid campaign perspective, what are you optimizing to?  What dictates the need for change?  For direct response campaigns, that&#039;s pretty straightforward.  But from a branding perspective, the instant measurement and decisions of what to change are fluffy, at best. You have paid media balanced with unpaid, designed experiences balanced with social experiences, freestyle content combined with ad unit content. I find many agencies struggle with this agile, constant communication concept because it&#039;s all about the big idea quarterly campaign.  An understanding of real time dashboard analytics connected to real metrics is often missing.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mike-I enjoyed this article.<br />
Looking at if from a paid campaign perspective, what are you optimizing to?  What dictates the need for change?  For direct response campaigns, that&#8217;s pretty straightforward.  But from a branding perspective, the instant measurement and decisions of what to change are fluffy, at best. You have paid media balanced with unpaid, designed experiences balanced with social experiences, freestyle content combined with ad unit content. I find many agencies struggle with this agile, constant communication concept because it&#8217;s all about the big idea quarterly campaign.  An understanding of real time dashboard analytics connected to real metrics is often missing.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew T. Grant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew T. Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would characterize the difference between hockey and figure skating as the difference between play and performance. The emerging, conversational media, whether you are using them for business or just to be social, call for play. To understand them and to &quot;use&quot; them effectively, you have to be in the game. As you rightly point out, being in the game requires a continuous, ongoing engagement with a perpetually changing landscape (the game situation).
The continuous nature of these new media poses, I think, the biggest challenge to agencies and companies alike. Maintaining continuous engagement, rather than putting on discrete performances, calls for a different set of skills, tools, and, ultimately, expectations.
All differences aside, what figure skating and hockey both share is an emphasis on technique and mastery. You have to be able to skate. You have to be physically fit. You have to be able to plan, collaborate, and execute. Etc.
In other words, the emerging world of marketing doesn&#039;t just need hockey players anymore than the traditional world only needed figure skaters. The real challenge, and why the focus on the people becomes paramount, is that companies today need marketing professionals with the stamina, focus, and flexibility of the player as well as the finesse, poise, and artistry of the performer.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would characterize the difference between hockey and figure skating as the difference between play and performance. The emerging, conversational media, whether you are using them for business or just to be social, call for play. To understand them and to &#8220;use&#8221; them effectively, you have to be in the game. As you rightly point out, being in the game requires a continuous, ongoing engagement with a perpetually changing landscape (the game situation).<br />
The continuous nature of these new media poses, I think, the biggest challenge to agencies and companies alike. Maintaining continuous engagement, rather than putting on discrete performances, calls for a different set of skills, tools, and, ultimately, expectations.<br />
All differences aside, what figure skating and hockey both share is an emphasis on technique and mastery. You have to be able to skate. You have to be physically fit. You have to be able to plan, collaborate, and execute. Etc.<br />
In other words, the emerging world of marketing doesn&#8217;t just need hockey players anymore than the traditional world only needed figure skaters. The real challenge, and why the focus on the people becomes paramount, is that companies today need marketing professionals with the stamina, focus, and flexibility of the player as well as the finesse, poise, and artistry of the performer.</p>
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