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]]> http://www.mpdailyfix.com/is-this-the-day-the-conversation-died/comment-page-1/#comment-31656 Neil Anuskiewicz Fri, 30 Nov 2007 23:09:46 +0000 http://www.mpdailyfix.com/is-this-the-day-the-conversation-died/#comment-31656 Agreed, Jo. Well said. By the way, one of my best friends is blind but that has not stopped him at all. He is a law professor at the University of Virginia. Agreed, Jo. Well said.
By the way, one of my best friends is blind but that has not stopped him at all. He is a law professor at the University of Virginia.

]]> http://www.mpdailyfix.com/is-this-the-day-the-conversation-died/comment-page-1/#comment-31655 Jo Taliaferro Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:14:23 +0000 http://www.mpdailyfix.com/is-this-the-day-the-conversation-died/#comment-31655 Hi, I'm a new blogger but I believe that it is such a visual world out there that folks read and forget to write. They don't write letters, they write emails, send photos, maybe ecards but...the fear of having the wrong lure or not knowing how to untangle the fishing line if you cast into the branches instead of deep waters can make writing what you think a scary venture, especially with the volatile market we have at the moment. As a blind person, I'm verbal, I write and now...here I am to urge the conversation forward so it doesn't become a life-threatening illness. If the conversation dies, the deaf rule. Hi, I’m a new blogger but I believe that it is such a visual world out there that folks read and forget to write. They don’t write letters, they write emails, send photos, maybe ecards but…the fear of having the wrong lure or not knowing how to untangle the fishing line if you cast into the branches instead of deep waters can make writing what you think a scary venture, especially with the volatile market we have at the moment. As a blind person, I’m verbal, I write and now…here I am to urge the conversation forward so it doesn’t become a life-threatening illness. If the conversation dies, the deaf rule.

]]> http://www.mpdailyfix.com/is-this-the-day-the-conversation-died/comment-page-1/#comment-31654 DWhittington Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:54:34 +0000 http://www.mpdailyfix.com/is-this-the-day-the-conversation-died/#comment-31654 In the sea of minds opinions are overfished. You need the right lure for the game. The title Bad Marketing arroused the appetite. The day is far from over, but it takes a clever fisherman to land the big attentions. In the sea of minds opinions are overfished. You need the right lure for the game. The title Bad Marketing arroused the appetite. The day is far from over, but it takes a clever fisherman to land the big attentions.

]]> http://www.mpdailyfix.com/is-this-the-day-the-conversation-died/comment-page-1/#comment-31653 Neil Anuskiewicz Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:41:55 +0000 http://www.mpdailyfix.com/is-this-the-day-the-conversation-died/#comment-31653 Kristina, Why do people think "who cares what I think?" I personally love to listen to what people have to say both in person and through blogs. I don't doubt that what you say is true, I just don't quite understand it. Kristina,
Why do people think “who cares what I think?” I personally love to listen to what people have to say both in person and through blogs.
I don’t doubt that what you say is true, I just don’t quite understand it.

]]> http://www.mpdailyfix.com/is-this-the-day-the-conversation-died/comment-page-1/#comment-31652 kristina Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:04:39 +0000 http://www.mpdailyfix.com/is-this-the-day-the-conversation-died/#comment-31652 Have you compared the comments during different times of the year? I think that people's mentalities have something to do with commenting. I also think that there is a bit of psychology involved in social media. I think some people, generally speaking, don't feel "listened to". I think that they use blogs, etc to express their views and how they feel because the "real" people in their life don't listen or validate their opinions. Maybe people aren't getting the same satisfaction from commenting that they once had. Maybe they think "who cares what I think". Have you compared the comments during different times of the year?
I think that people’s mentalities have something to do with commenting. I also think that there is a bit of psychology involved in social media. I think some people, generally speaking, don’t feel “listened to”. I think that they use blogs, etc to express their views and how they feel because the “real” people in their life don’t listen or validate their opinions. Maybe people aren’t getting the same satisfaction from commenting that they once had. Maybe they think “who cares what I think”.

]]> http://www.mpdailyfix.com/is-this-the-day-the-conversation-died/comment-page-1/#comment-31651 Paul Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:19:22 +0000 http://www.mpdailyfix.com/is-this-the-day-the-conversation-died/#comment-31651 Yes, our attention is divided as many have noted, but most people still only have 4 or 5 key places they visit regularly. So, if this is a blog that I frequent and that is meaningful to me, the proliferation of media won't change whether I interact with it. Newsreaders are a factor too, but obviously it didn't hurt this post. Why? Because you posed a question that many of us have thought about from time to time and have developed opinions on, or have identified patterns that we see emerging. Your post demanded an answer, and if you wanted to learn something, you had to click through to see the other comments, so even if read in a reader, people will still come to the site, and maybe add their own comment. For me, this is simple. The more thought I put into the original post, and the more I challenge readers to think, the more they comment. The more the topic requires me to read the comments to understand the trend or learn something, the more likely I am to comment. I think if people are joining the conversation less, it's because bloggers get tired of that effort to engage and solicit input. It's always been easier to say what you think, and not care what anyone else thinks, so I chalk the biggest part of it up to the blogger and what they've posted. Yes, our attention is divided as many have noted, but most people still only have 4 or 5 key places they visit regularly. So, if this is a blog that I frequent and that is meaningful to me, the proliferation of media won’t change whether I interact with it.
Newsreaders are a factor too, but obviously it didn’t hurt this post. Why? Because you posed a question that many of us have thought about from time to time and have developed opinions on, or have identified patterns that we see emerging. Your post demanded an answer, and if you wanted to learn something, you had to click through to see the other comments, so even if read in a reader, people will still come to the site, and maybe add their own comment.
For me, this is simple. The more thought I put into the original post, and the more I challenge readers to think, the more they comment. The more the topic requires me to read the comments to understand the trend or learn something, the more likely I am to comment. I think if people are joining the conversation less, it’s because bloggers get tired of that effort to engage and solicit input. It’s always been easier to say what you think, and not care what anyone else thinks, so I chalk the biggest part of it up to the blogger and what they’ve posted.

]]> http://www.mpdailyfix.com/is-this-the-day-the-conversation-died/comment-page-1/#comment-31650 Neil Anuskiewicz Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:11:13 +0000 http://www.mpdailyfix.com/is-this-the-day-the-conversation-died/#comment-31650 Ed, Very insightful post. Ed,
Very insightful post.

]]> http://www.mpdailyfix.com/is-this-the-day-the-conversation-died/comment-page-1/#comment-31649 Ed Hawco Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:25:05 +0000 http://www.mpdailyfix.com/is-this-the-day-the-conversation-died/#comment-31649 (Coming late to this...) I currently pilot four blogs, but my main one (Blork Blog) has been running since late 2000. That's almost seven years! In that time, the number of visitors and comments have ebbed and flowed, somewhat predictably (always more in winter, less in summer), but my biggest and most sustained drop in participation started last spring. That's pretty much when Facebook really broke into the mainstream. In the other comments here, people have mentioned how many social media outlets are competing for our attention (with more coming online every day it seems), and I really think that's at the root of the situation .... and I really think that Facebook is at the root of the phenomenon. My Blork Blog is a personal blog, but I try to make it interesting to anyone who has an interest in food, reading, photography, etc. Still, it's quite diffused. I have readers from all over the world, and used to average 6-10 comments per post (some would have only a couple, some would have 25, tc.) That was before Facebook, when participatory social media was primarily about blogs. (Let's face it, MySpace is for ADD kids, and few people spend much time on Linked In.) But when I see how much time my friends now spend on Facebook, I'm amazed! It seems like they spend hours per day on silly applications, combing through "groups," posting on each other's "walls," etc. It's dead obvious why there's not much time, energy, or attention left for blogs. I'm not ready to state unequivocally that this is a problem .... it's just the evolution of social media. People who just want to amuse themselves (and that, it seems, is most people) will play with Facebook because it is rich and entertaining and requires almost no effort. People who want more substance to their interactions will continue to read, write, and comment on blogs. In other words, perhaps Facebook has simply pulled away the ones who were only half there in the first place. (Coming late to this…) I currently pilot four blogs, but my main one (Blork Blog) has been running since late 2000. That’s almost seven years!
In that time, the number of visitors and comments have ebbed and flowed, somewhat predictably (always more in winter, less in summer), but my biggest and most sustained drop in participation started last spring. That’s pretty much when Facebook really broke into the mainstream.
In the other comments here, people have mentioned how many social media outlets are competing for our attention (with more coming online every day it seems), and I really think that’s at the root of the situation …. and I really think that Facebook is at the root of the phenomenon.
My Blork Blog is a personal blog, but I try to make it interesting to anyone who has an interest in food, reading, photography, etc. Still, it’s quite diffused. I have readers from all over the world, and used to average 6-10 comments per post (some would have only a couple, some would have 25, tc.) That was before Facebook, when participatory social media was primarily about blogs. (Let’s face it, MySpace is for ADD kids, and few people spend much time on Linked In.)
But when I see how much time my friends now spend on Facebook, I’m amazed! It seems like they spend hours per day on silly applications, combing through “groups,” posting on each other’s “walls,” etc. It’s dead obvious why there’s not much time, energy, or attention left for blogs.
I’m not ready to state unequivocally that this is a problem …. it’s just the evolution of social media. People who just want to amuse themselves (and that, it seems, is most people) will play with Facebook because it is rich and entertaining and requires almost no effort. People who want more substance to their interactions will continue to read, write, and comment on blogs. In other words, perhaps Facebook has simply pulled away the ones who were only half there in the first place.

]]> http://www.mpdailyfix.com/is-this-the-day-the-conversation-died/comment-page-1/#comment-31648 Lewis Green Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:11:01 +0000 http://www.mpdailyfix.com/is-this-the-day-the-conversation-died/#comment-31648 The conversation lives! Love you guys and gals. Thanks for your participation. The conversation lives! Love you guys and gals. Thanks for your participation.

]]> http://www.mpdailyfix.com/is-this-the-day-the-conversation-died/comment-page-1/#comment-31647 Neil Anuskiewicz Sun, 11 Nov 2007 16:45:57 +0000 http://www.mpdailyfix.com/is-this-the-day-the-conversation-died/#comment-31647 Manuel, to clarify, I meant that perhaps life is more stressful and people are more tired these days. I was not suggesting they were specifically tired of blogs per se. It was just speculation on my part. Manuel, to clarify, I meant that perhaps life is more stressful and people are more tired these days. I was not suggesting they were specifically tired of blogs per se. It was just speculation on my part.

]]> http://www.mpdailyfix.com/is-this-the-day-the-conversation-died/comment-page-1/#comment-31646 Manuel Rivera Sun, 11 Nov 2007 05:27:06 +0000 http://www.mpdailyfix.com/is-this-the-day-the-conversation-died/#comment-31646 Beth you made a good point... I feel the same way too. thinking that i might have to say wil sound silly. Neil: I don't think that people is tired about blogs it is just that now we have so many options thanks to the internet that it is just difficult to participate in all. Beth you made a good point… I feel the same way too. thinking that i might have to say wil sound silly.
Neil: I don’t think that people is tired about blogs it is just that now we have so many options thanks to the internet that it is just difficult to participate in all.

]]> http://www.mpdailyfix.com/is-this-the-day-the-conversation-died/comment-page-1/#comment-31645 Tangerine Toad Sat, 10 Nov 2007 00:07:43 +0000 http://www.mpdailyfix.com/is-this-the-day-the-conversation-died/#comment-31645 Thinning out or consolidation. I suspect we'll see the equivalent of online networks or magazines- sites that bring what's deemed "the best" of content together in one place. If only because we just don't have time to read it all. Thinning out or consolidation.
I suspect we’ll see the equivalent of online networks or magazines- sites that bring what’s deemed “the best” of content together in one place.
If only because we just don’t have time to read it all.

]]> http://www.mpdailyfix.com/is-this-the-day-the-conversation-died/comment-page-1/#comment-31644 George Fri, 09 Nov 2007 19:05:42 +0000 http://www.mpdailyfix.com/is-this-the-day-the-conversation-died/#comment-31644 I have found myself busier than ever. There is always a new social networking site to join, a new blog to read... This means that I don't focus all my time commenting on one blog, my valuable time commenting is spread over a lot more blogs. This will only get worse as more and more blogs and social networks come on the scene. I think what you are witnessing is the thinning out of conversation, not the end of it. I have found myself busier than ever. There is always a new social networking site to join, a new blog to read… This means that I don’t focus all my time commenting on one blog, my valuable time commenting is spread over a lot more blogs. This will only get worse as more and more blogs and social networks come on the scene. I think what you are witnessing is the thinning out of conversation, not the end of it.

]]> http://www.mpdailyfix.com/is-this-the-day-the-conversation-died/comment-page-1/#comment-31643 Bob Glaza Fri, 09 Nov 2007 16:32:48 +0000 http://www.mpdailyfix.com/is-this-the-day-the-conversation-died/#comment-31643 Happy Friday, LG - Happy Friday, LG -

]]> http://www.mpdailyfix.com/is-this-the-day-the-conversation-died/comment-page-1/#comment-31642 Elaine Fogel Fri, 09 Nov 2007 15:06:54 +0000 http://www.mpdailyfix.com/is-this-the-day-the-conversation-died/#comment-31642 Hi, Lewis. Seems that this post and ensuing discussion is anecdotal proof that if there's a good topic with an opportunity to join the discussion, they will come. Hi, Lewis. Seems that this post and ensuing discussion is anecdotal proof that if there’s a good topic with an opportunity to join the discussion, they will come.

]]> http://www.mpdailyfix.com/is-this-the-day-the-conversation-died/comment-page-1/#comment-31641 RichardatDELL Thu, 08 Nov 2007 22:44:57 +0000 http://www.mpdailyfix.com/is-this-the-day-the-conversation-died/#comment-31641 Hi Lewis YEAH!!!!!!!!!! I wrote a blogpost several months ago at <a href="http://richardatDELL" rel="nofollow">http://richardatDELL</a> .blogspot.com saying blogging was in seth godin's dip as everyone went off chasing shiny new balls. Still the best conversations are on blogs, not twitter or facebook or anywhere else. Hear hear for this post!!! Hi Lewis
YEAH!!!!!!!!!! I wrote a blogpost several months ago at http://richardatDELL .blogspot.com saying blogging was in seth godin’s dip as everyone went off chasing shiny new balls. Still the best conversations are on blogs, not twitter or facebook or anywhere else. Hear hear for this post!!!

]]> http://www.mpdailyfix.com/is-this-the-day-the-conversation-died/comment-page-1/#comment-31640 Tangerine Toad Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:55:10 +0000 http://www.mpdailyfix.com/is-this-the-day-the-conversation-died/#comment-31640 Great conversation you started Lewis. One more thing to throw in the mix: a lot of it is seasonal. Summer gets lots of comments because work is slower. But this is a busy season for lots of people, trying to get everything done before Jan 1. Great conversation you started Lewis.
One more thing to throw in the mix: a lot of it is seasonal. Summer gets lots of comments because work is slower.
But this is a busy season for lots of people, trying to get everything done before Jan 1.

]]> http://www.mpdailyfix.com/is-this-the-day-the-conversation-died/comment-page-1/#comment-31639 Lewis Green Thu, 08 Nov 2007 15:02:59 +0000 http://www.mpdailyfix.com/is-this-the-day-the-conversation-died/#comment-31639 Jason, I agree. It is about content. Nearly all the contributors here have our own blogs. Our audiences are smaller but our blogs are noticed by readers and get quite a lot of feedback, via comments, Twitter and e-mail. You should check some of the contributors' blogs out. Good stuff. Jason,
I agree. It is about content. Nearly all the contributors here have our own blogs. Our audiences are smaller but our blogs are noticed by readers and get quite a lot of feedback, via comments, Twitter and e-mail. You should check some of the contributors’ blogs out. Good stuff.

]]> http://www.mpdailyfix.com/is-this-the-day-the-conversation-died/comment-page-1/#comment-31638 Jason Alba Thu, 08 Nov 2007 14:08:10 +0000 http://www.mpdailyfix.com/is-this-the-day-the-conversation-died/#comment-31638 As a blogger I think it's my responsibility to create compelling content to start a discussion, and to get people to be interested in following me regularly enough so that they are there when it's right for them to comment. To many bloggers that I've seen write for the search engines, not for the community. Also, sometimes I realize that some posts will generate comments, others won't... but there is still value in communicating something. I wonder how many comments you would get if you moved off of this website and onto your own? As a blogger I think it’s my responsibility to create compelling content to start a discussion, and to get people to be interested in following me regularly enough so that they are there when it’s right for them to comment.
To many bloggers that I’ve seen write for the search engines, not for the community.
Also, sometimes I realize that some posts will generate comments, others won’t… but there is still value in communicating something.
I wonder how many comments you would get if you moved off of this website and onto your own?

]]> http://www.mpdailyfix.com/is-this-the-day-the-conversation-died/comment-page-1/#comment-31637 Lewis Green Thu, 08 Nov 2007 13:56:52 +0000 http://www.mpdailyfix.com/is-this-the-day-the-conversation-died/#comment-31637 Thanks all. Yes, we are being overloaded with platforms competing for our attention. Although I have a presence at Facebook et al, I participate primary at blogs because they hold the best opportunity to start a conversation. And I get bored too, and responding to comments is hard work, but if we post and someone comments or sends an e-mail because they are too shy to comment in public, I think we owe it to the readers to respond. At the end of the day, social media is like everything else in business. We need to prioritize and focus on those tools that provide the most benefit to both our business and our customers (readers). To use David's phrases: That's my 2 cents. Thanks to everyone who engaged in this conversation. Now that's what I'm talking about. Thanks all. Yes, we are being overloaded with platforms competing for our attention. Although I have a presence at Facebook et al, I participate primary at blogs because they hold the best opportunity to start a conversation.
And I get bored too, and responding to comments is hard work, but if we post and someone comments or sends an e-mail because they are too shy to comment in public, I think we owe it to the readers to respond.
At the end of the day, social media is like everything else in business. We need to prioritize and focus on those tools that provide the most benefit to both our business and our customers (readers).
To use David’s phrases: That’s my 2 cents.
Thanks to everyone who engaged in this conversation. Now that’s what I’m talking about.

]]> http://www.mpdailyfix.com/is-this-the-day-the-conversation-died/comment-page-1/#comment-31636 Neil Anuskiewicz Thu, 08 Nov 2007 12:25:48 +0000 http://www.mpdailyfix.com/is-this-the-day-the-conversation-died/#comment-31636 Harry, speaking of boredom, I do think the forum has to some how reduce or filter out the requests for taglines, etc. It is getting out of hand. Some sort of message needs to be prsented to people when they try to post. Something like: "The focus of this forum is on helping people solve business problems. However, to limit the scope of the forum, we ask that you please do not ask tag line or business name questions here." I just did the wording off the cuff so I am sure it could be done better. But I 100% agree with you, Harry. The tag line questions in particular are just outright irritating both in their content and their sheer volume. We could get more involvement and more real discussion if there was a rule against these sort of questions and more discussion of *other* business problems. To me, cutting the tag lines, etc., would make the forum 10 times more interesting. This should be enforced too. Some sort of moderator should go in periodically and outright delete tag line questions. Harry, speaking of boredom, I do think the forum has to some how reduce or filter out the requests for taglines, etc.
It is getting out of hand. Some sort of message needs to be prsented to people when they try to post. Something like:
“The focus of this forum is on helping people solve business problems. However, to limit the scope of the forum, we ask that you please do not ask tag line or business name questions here.”
I just did the wording off the cuff so I am sure it could be done better. But I 100% agree with you, Harry. The tag line questions in particular are just outright irritating both in their content and their sheer volume.
We could get more involvement and more real discussion if there was a rule against these sort of questions and more discussion of *other* business problems. To me, cutting the tag lines, etc., would make the forum 10 times more interesting.
This should be enforced too. Some sort of moderator should go in periodically and outright delete tag line questions.

]]> http://www.mpdailyfix.com/is-this-the-day-the-conversation-died/comment-page-1/#comment-31635 Harry hallman Thu, 08 Nov 2007 11:40:57 +0000 http://www.mpdailyfix.com/is-this-the-day-the-conversation-died/#comment-31635 Lewis I believe the drop in comments is due to a couple of problems the first being over abundance. Social media has and will continue to do one thing. Create more and more information to add to the glut. How much can one person read or look at? Since this is a new thing people who are interested enough to comment are probably the same ones who are trying to experience as much of social media as they can while it is new. The result is that they don't have time to write thoughtful responses to every post. This will pass. The second issue is boredom. When I first joined Marketing Profs I was very active in answering questions and responding to blogs. I have found that after a year I am getting pretty bored because the questions are repeated time after time. I mean, how many requests for tag lines, when no background info is provided, does it take to bore you? Just this morning there were 8 questions in the non-urgent area. Four were for names and tags. How many business name requests do you have to read before you are bored and how many incepted business name suggestions can anyone endure. Of course, I am over reacting, but that is the point. Sometimes we need stimulation and a good old give and take or the presentation of provocative concepts. Lewis, you often make posts that get the juice rolling, but how many citizen marketers are going to be able to match your years of experience? Social media will stay around because it is easy to do and there will be gems in the sludge, but like all things like this, the cream will eventually rise to the top. Lewis I believe the drop in comments is due to a couple of problems the first being over abundance. Social media has and will continue to do one thing. Create more and more information to add to the glut. How much can one person read or look at? Since this is a new thing people who are interested enough to comment are probably the same ones who are trying to experience as much of social media as they can while it is new. The result is that they don’t have time to write thoughtful responses to every post. This will pass.
The second issue is boredom. When I first joined Marketing Profs I was very active in answering questions and responding to blogs. I have found that after a year I am getting pretty bored because the questions are repeated time after time. I mean, how many requests for tag lines, when no background info is provided, does it take to bore you? Just this morning there were 8 questions in the non-urgent area. Four were for names and tags.
How many business name requests do you have to read before you are bored and how many incepted business name suggestions can anyone endure. Of course, I am over reacting, but that is the point. Sometimes we need stimulation and a good old give and take or the presentation of provocative concepts. Lewis, you often make posts that get the juice rolling, but how many citizen marketers are going to be able to match your years of experience?
Social media will stay around because it is easy to do and there will be gems in the sludge, but like all things like this, the cream will eventually rise to the top.

]]> http://www.mpdailyfix.com/is-this-the-day-the-conversation-died/comment-page-1/#comment-31634 Ann Handley Thu, 08 Nov 2007 02:10:35 +0000 http://www.mpdailyfix.com/is-this-the-day-the-conversation-died/#comment-31634 Lewis -- Great post here! I've been meaning to comment all day.. which pretty much tells you how my day and commenting goes... These are all great points. For me, two things are at play: 1. I'm spreading my "conversing" across many more platforms that, say, a year ago... on Facebook itself as well as member "walls," on FB groups, on Twitter, etc. Today, I spent about a half-hour conversing with David Armano, Mindblob, Roger Van Oech, and others on David's "always in beta" webcam/chat site. In other words, blogs are competing with other platforms... which in my mind is fine. It's all conversation. 2. Increasingly, I'm reading a lot of blogs via feeds... so (like others said here), I'm not necessarily going to the blog site itself. Overall, it's a change in how I'm consuming... but I'm consuming and feeding back nevertheless. Lewis — Great post here! I’ve been meaning to comment all day.. which pretty much tells you how my day and commenting goes…
These are all great points. For me, two things are at play:
1. I’m spreading my “conversing” across many more platforms that, say, a year ago… on Facebook itself as well as member “walls,” on FB groups, on Twitter, etc. Today, I spent about a half-hour conversing with David Armano, Mindblob, Roger Van Oech, and others on David’s “always in beta” webcam/chat site. In other words, blogs are competing with other platforms… which in my mind is fine. It’s all conversation.
2. Increasingly, I’m reading a lot of blogs via feeds… so (like others said here), I’m not necessarily going to the blog site itself.
Overall, it’s a change in how I’m consuming… but I’m consuming and feeding back nevertheless.

]]> http://www.mpdailyfix.com/is-this-the-day-the-conversation-died/comment-page-1/#comment-31633 CK Wed, 07 Nov 2007 23:46:56 +0000 http://www.mpdailyfix.com/is-this-the-day-the-conversation-died/#comment-31633 Lew: Sometimes when I post I might receive only a few comments...but then I find that the post inspired another post (by another blogger) and the convo continues in that fashion.So the convo hasn't died, it's just continued elsewhere. Other times I find that a convo that might only have 1 or 2 comments brings me more value than one that has 25 comments...so while a "small" conversation per se, it makes a big difference in my learning curve. So the convo hasn't died. And while many read, but don't comment, they're learning from the convo (be "they" a company or an individual) and they're taking that knowledge and input on product prefs/etc. and referring others. So on that count the convo hasn't died. Lew: Sometimes when I post I might receive only a few comments…but then I find that the post inspired another post (by another blogger) and the convo continues in that fashion.So the convo hasn’t died, it’s just continued elsewhere.
Other times I find that a convo that might only have 1 or 2 comments brings me more value than one that has 25 comments…so while a “small” conversation per se, it makes a big difference in my learning curve. So the convo hasn’t died.
And while many read, but don’t comment, they’re learning from the convo (be “they” a company or an individual) and they’re taking that knowledge and input on product prefs/etc. and referring others. So on that count the convo hasn’t died.

]]> http://www.mpdailyfix.com/is-this-the-day-the-conversation-died/comment-page-1/#comment-31632 Lewis Green Wed, 07 Nov 2007 20:09:51 +0000 http://www.mpdailyfix.com/is-this-the-day-the-conversation-died/#comment-31632 B.L. I suspect you are right and that lots of people feel that way. But doesn't that happen seldomly and then mostly to get clarification. Perhaps some of us, and I can be guilty of this, are too direct and should nuance our questions to be more sensitive to other's feelings. B.L.
I suspect you are right and that lots of people feel that way. But doesn’t that happen seldomly and then mostly to get clarification. Perhaps some of us, and I can be guilty of this, are too direct and should nuance our questions to be more sensitive to other’s feelings.

]]> http://www.mpdailyfix.com/is-this-the-day-the-conversation-died/comment-page-1/#comment-31631 B.L Ochman Wed, 07 Nov 2007 19:42:41 +0000 http://www.mpdailyfix.com/is-this-the-day-the-conversation-died/#comment-31631 comments get boring when they get into arguments and that happens a lot on many blogs. as soon as people start talking about the finer nuances of other people's comments, i'm gone. i bet i'm not the only one who feels that way. comments get boring when they get into arguments and that happens a lot on many blogs. as soon as people start talking about the finer nuances of other people’s comments, i’m gone. i bet i’m not the only one who feels that way.

]]> http://www.mpdailyfix.com/is-this-the-day-the-conversation-died/comment-page-1/#comment-31630 Lewis Green Wed, 07 Nov 2007 19:29:03 +0000 http://www.mpdailyfix.com/is-this-the-day-the-conversation-died/#comment-31630 CK, I don't understand how if no one comments that doesn't mean there isn't a conversation? I'm missing your point, which I'm sure is a good one but not getting through my thick skull. Stephen, I agree. But in my mind the posts I read, including yours, are high-quality. Yet, I yearn for a conversation around the writer's point. Again, without comments, it's just an article. And if enough blogs become a source for articles in instead of a source for conversation (i.e., commenting), they lose the social aspect and become only newsletters, magazines, etc. Am I wrong? CK,
I don’t understand how if no one comments that doesn’t mean there isn’t a conversation? I’m missing your point, which I’m sure is a good one but not getting through my thick skull.
Stephen,
I agree. But in my mind the posts I read, including yours, are high-quality. Yet, I yearn for a conversation around the writer’s point. Again, without comments, it’s just an article. And if enough blogs become a source for articles in instead of a source for conversation (i.e., commenting), they lose the social aspect and become only newsletters, magazines, etc. Am I wrong?

]]> http://www.mpdailyfix.com/is-this-the-day-the-conversation-died/comment-page-1/#comment-31629 Stephen Denny Wed, 07 Nov 2007 19:13:46 +0000 http://www.mpdailyfix.com/is-this-the-day-the-conversation-died/#comment-31629 Lewis and all: I read somewhere that there are now over 100 million ex-bloggers. Ex. As in, 'no longer blogging bloggers.' I recall hearing that the world's most popular blog is a Chinese actress who talks about playing with her kitten. She has 100 million readers. And let's face it -- the most popular video on iTunes is "I Want to be a Rock Star," which pretty much sums up self-publishing, social media, blogging, and a lot of other things. What used to be elitist is now available to the vulgate (meaning us). Maybe it's overload. I just purged my RSS of blogs I just don't read often enough and added a few new ones. I'll purge it all again in a few months. There's a lot of 'stuff' out there, and not all of it is of particularly high quality. You either find the content riveting enough to keep reading or you are personally engaged in the discussion with someone you care about. If neither apply, you purge. Fewer posts are OK, as long as they're better posts. Same goes for comments, in my book. Lewis and all:
I read somewhere that there are now over 100 million ex-bloggers. Ex. As in, ‘no longer blogging bloggers.’
I recall hearing that the world’s most popular blog is a Chinese actress who talks about playing with her kitten. She has 100 million readers.
And let’s face it — the most popular video on iTunes is “I Want to be a Rock Star,” which pretty much sums up self-publishing, social media, blogging, and a lot of other things. What used to be elitist is now available to the vulgate (meaning us).
Maybe it’s overload. I just purged my RSS of blogs I just don’t read often enough and added a few new ones. I’ll purge it all again in a few months.
There’s a lot of ’stuff’ out there, and not all of it is of particularly high quality. You either find the content riveting enough to keep reading or you are personally engaged in the discussion with someone you care about. If neither apply, you purge.
Fewer posts are OK, as long as they’re better posts. Same goes for comments, in my book.

]]> http://www.mpdailyfix.com/is-this-the-day-the-conversation-died/comment-page-1/#comment-31628 CK Wed, 07 Nov 2007 18:48:19 +0000 http://www.mpdailyfix.com/is-this-the-day-the-conversation-died/#comment-31628 Good stuff. I understand that social media is a conversation because anyone is now empowered with a voice that can be broadcast at large...as efficiently as most other media. They can post. They can comment. They can read. Or none of the above. With, what, 100+million blogs, social network frenzy hitting BtoB (talking OpenForum not Facebook) and major media tapping blogs for feedback, I don't think the conversation has died. My posts are referenced in other posts...sometimes they add or inspire others. Just because they don't comment doesn't mean they're not holding those convos, ya know? As for me, I read a lot of the information but usually focus on a few deep convos at the time. And, sometimes it's a convo with 3 comments that I get more from than one with 20 comments. Good stuff. I understand that social media is a conversation because anyone is now empowered with a voice that can be broadcast at large…as efficiently as most other media.
They can post.
They can comment.
They can read.
Or none of the above.
With, what, 100+million blogs, social network frenzy hitting BtoB (talking OpenForum not Facebook) and major media tapping blogs for feedback, I don’t think the conversation has died.
My posts are referenced in other posts…sometimes they add or inspire others. Just because they don’t comment doesn’t mean they’re not holding those convos, ya know? As for me, I read a lot of the information but usually focus on a few deep convos at the time. And, sometimes it’s a convo with 3 comments that I get more from than one with 20 comments.

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